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Thursday, 25 August 2016

The BVIs are just SWELL!


St. John, USVI & part of the BVI's

As we cruise back through the Virgin Islands this season, our goal is to visit anchorages we skipped last time.  When we could find all around protection last year, we took it.  This season, I'm hoping to be more adventurous.  New friends are sharing their favorite spots and I'm keeping a list.  However, in passing, someone mentioned, "We got caught in an anchorage with a ground swell and had to move in the middle of the night."  How do we avoid that?!

So, I looked it up.  According to the Scott's "Cruising Guide to the Virgin Islands" (the bible for this area), certain anchorages should be avoided when the "ground sea is running."  One example is Trunk Bay, St. John.  OK, what is it and where is that forecast?

In the same book in the Virgin Weather section, they refer to ground swells.  The same thing?  Confusing.  "During the winter months of November through April, any significant weather in the North Atlantic will product heavy swells along the entire north coast of the Virgins several days later.  These ground swells have little effect on vessels under sail, but can turn a normally tranquil anchorage into pounding surf.  Most anchorages exposed to the north are prone to this phenomenon--chose your anchorage accordingly."  Hmmmm.  More information please.

NOAA Swell forecast

On our visit to the BVI's last year, friends warned us off of Cane Garden Bay and the north side of St. John during a "North swell".  (Yep, the cruising guide confirms Cinnamon Bay is "untenable during northeast ground seas")!  This led us to subscribe to the NOAA Wave Period/Swell Direction Forecast (or read all the way to the end of the Chris Parker forecast).  North swell is also briefly discussed in Bruce Van Sant's weather section regarding the north coast of the Dominican Republic.

Further googling swell in the Virgin Island area revealed the terms "Atlantic swell" or references to "No swell".  (Isn't there is always an ocean swell ie. Statia?!  Apparently it means "No north swell").

All good wave research ultimately lands me on surfing websites.  Who LOVES big waves?  Surfers!  And their wave forecasting is impressive.  Apparently the north coast of Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are popular surf spots in the winter because of THE NORTH SWELL!  Some info I found about "groundswell" (one word) from leading surfing meteorologist and Surfline.com forecaster Sean Collins about the difference between normal wind swell and groundswell (http://www.surfline.com/community/whoknows/whoknows.cfm?id=1144):

"Windswells are swells that are generated by local winds within a few hundred miles of the coast. As a result, the swell periods are short (four to 10 seconds between crests) and the waves tend to stack up on each other with very consistent sets. Also, a windswell's energy doesn't extend very deep -- maybe only 100 feet or so -- so it can only travel a few hundred miles before dissipating because most of the wave energy is concentrated closer to the ocean surface. 

Groundswells are swells that are usually generated by winds much farther away. These swells are created by strong winds over long distances -- we refer to this distance as the "fetch" -- and over longer periods of time. As a result, more energy is transferred into the water during the generation of the waves, which create longer swell periods. Waves with longer swell periods can travel great distances without losing the swell energy like windswells do. Furthermore, swell energy in groundswells can also extend down to around 1,000 feet deep. This allows greater interaction with the ocean floor when the groundswells move into shallow water. For example, this process of refraction will allow groundswells to wrap into a spot -- up to 180 degrees or more -- while windswells wrap very little if at all."  And this is why the ground seas running or north swell is so dangerous for sailors.

Van Sant, Passages South

Summary:  Take any groundswell/ground seas/north well SERIOUSLY.  It's not just "windy and rolly".  We sat out the last north swell tucked into Ensenada Honda, Culebra, Puerto Rico.  

My final definition:  Any significant low pressure system in the North Atlantic can create an ocean swell thousands of miles ahead of it.  The strong winds over long distances (fetch) creates longer period swells of 10-20 sec+ period.  These waves have more energy than a normal wind driven wave, extending down to 1000 ft deep.  This can make unprotected northern anchorages in the Virgins not just rolly but "untenable" (unable to be occupied--calculating the scope required is precarious and picturing what it is doing to your anchor should also keep you up all night).  It will produce strong rip currents ("no swimming" warning from the BVI during the last "Northerly"), and landing dinghies can be dangerous (ie. The Baths, Virgin Gorda).  The swell may last for 3-4 days.  And don't forget:  swell may arrive the 1-2 days before the forecast wind shift!  The waves travel ahead of the weather system!


NOAA Offshore Forecast


On a side note:  This relates back to a discussion about waves and swell in my previous weather blog (what-do-you-use-for-weather). Here is how a north swell can affect your forecast. Van Sant recommends always using the NOAA Offshore Report, but this season I've discovered the NOAA Coastal Water Report puts the "wind" wave and "swell" wave forecast next to each other, so it's easier to recognize a confused sea state.   If you compare the swell to the normal wave forecast, you can more easily predict "washing machine" seas.  Not comfortable, and slows us down.  Example:  EAST WINDS 10 TO 15 KNOTS. SEAS 4 TO 6 FEET WITH OCCASIONAL SEAS UP TO 8 FEET. DOMINANT PERIOD 10 SECONDS. NORTH SWELL 4 TO 5 FEET. 


NOAA Coastal Waters Forecast


References:
Passages South by Bruce Van Sant
Scott's Cruising Guide to the Virgin Islands
Nigel Calder's Cruising Handbook
surfline.com
NOAA marine forecasts



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Monday, 10 February 2014

The ORBs have come are you prepared


This boat really was never designed to have an autopilot installed despite the fact it's a twin engined hybrid pleasure bowrider and fishing boat. I visit the boat, crawl around, snap pics to aid my creaky memory and figure it's possible. Not easy, very cramped but I can do it. It has a new Teleflex helm jammed into a tiny console, no worries there other than the lack of room. What I didn't know was something was different, very different about this helm that I think even an experienced installer like myself could easily miss. I would bet that most couldn't tell from the picture what this is, but I'm going to enlighten all. From my experience the line from the movie Groundhog Day "Anything that's different is good" was not.


I visited the local Parker hydraulic fittings distributor and bought a substantial amount of fittings trying to shrewdly anticipate  the problems I was sure to have.

The boat is living in a dealers lot and has to be completed by the end of Friday and this is Monday. I'm also throwing in a chartplotter and transducer which have their own spatial constraint issues. Half of Tuesday gully washes and is a work write off. On Wednesday morning armed with plethora of fittings and tools I crawl into the console and start the process. This is where things start to go south...    really quickly.

I always start autopilot plumbing by taking out the six o'clock return port and draining the hydraulic fluid reservoir into a bottle for later safe disposal. Humm... the plug to the port is not what I was expecting. It needs a hex wrench to remove it. When did this change?

I rummage around in my kit, find the wrench and remove the plug. There is another issue that has to be contended with. Things are so cramped I can't get a bottle under the fitting to catch to hydraulic fluid so I need lots of paper towels under it to absorb the fluid.

Normally there is only a couple cubic inches of fluid, but the damn stuff keeps pouring out. I frantically grab more paper towels and jam them under, but the stuff is still escaping. More paper towels are frantically jammed in and the original ones are so saturated they are now dripping. Finally it stops but not before the oily stuff has dripped into the console on everything, weeped onto the sole of the boat and a small creek of the stuff has run all the way to the stern. A substantial amount of the stuff is now on me also.

What I hadn't noticed was the filler for the helm pump was mounted high up on the console and a foot and a half of half inch plastic hose was also full of fluid. An hour later of clean up and degreasing I'm back behind the pump staring at the fitting. It ain't right. This isn't what I was expecting. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, what's going on. Nothing I have will fit, and if it's not bad enough it's started or pour again. %$#*!!

I pick up the phone and have a good and animated conversation with Teleflex. What's different is the plumbing. Teleflex's new helm pumps are now using ORB fittings (O Ring Boss) instead of the 1/4" NPT fittings they have used for years.

Their argument is they have a lot of warranty issues with both teflon tape and pipe thread sealants getting into the systems. These fittings eliminate both of these problems. Further you can orient them into any position you want which is often very difficult to do with NPT fittings. I certainly don't disagree with their assessment. These are better fittings but.....

I get the the issues you can have with sealants of all varieties. It only takes a tiny amount of anything in a hydraulic system to cause a check valve or the ilk to allow fluid bypass. Neither gooey thread sealants or tape are great solutions, but this is all we've had for years. Of the two I like the tape better for a number of reasons.

So be it. My Teleflex colleague and I have had this ongoing friendly conversation for years. I understand if they find tape in a system I connected to a autopilot I have voided their warranty. This has never happen to me. In general if they find anything in the helm pump you're in the same position with the warranty.

So here is my problem with the new fittings. It's not that they are bad, because they're really much better. It's where do you get them from? Teleflex apparently is under the impression that West Marine is stocking these fittings in their warehouse. I took a quick look and only found four straight out ORB fittings period. I didn't check every fitting in the Teleflex catalog against the West Marine warehouse, but the next four fitting tries yielded no products in stock. As a matter of fact those three fittings you see above depleted the inventory of the only two hydraulic fittings suppliers within an hours travel of me, and in general their inventory of these smaller ORB fittings were somewhat bleak.

Now there is still a second problem. No matter what I'm still going to have to use some NTP fittings when plumbing an autopilot. Space is cramped, I often have to use NPT nipples, and other creative options to get things to fit. So we're back to the tape or goo thing again. And one more thing, these ORB fittings can be really pricey as you can see from this online marine store. Just to give you a point of contrast a NPT version of this is about $6.00 in brass and locally available

So this is what I'm going to do in the short run. I'm going to buy a good handful of both straight out and ninety degree ORB to NPT adapters like you see in the photo. Everything else will be done with NPT fittings until I can find a better, meaning has the inventory and more affordable sources. This is a good idea, but the supply chain needs some improvement for these particular sized fittings, a lot of it.

The autopilot still isn't finished. I put the return plug back in and refilled the system. My confidence level wasn't very high that I could do the plumbing correctly in the time I had left, and the owner wanted to used his new boat. He leaves town in a couple of days, and then I will finish the plumbing. This way if something goes awry, I have time to find the odd pieces I will need to make it work in the tiny space I have. It's a boat and it's always something.

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Thursday, 6 February 2014

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